ITS OFFICIAL: : Nintendo's "Revolution" is off my "must have" list (My rant)

First and formost, I just want to say that I'm by no means a "fan boy" of any system, wheather it be from MS,Sony or Nintendo. I've owned systems from all three companies at one point or another and currently own an XBOX/GC/PS2 (among many of their previous consoles) so this post is not meant as a put down to Nintendo.

This post is to express my concern for Nintendo's future in gaming consoles. I'm really worried that they're heading in the completely wrong direction with their next console, the Revolution. Here's why.

Let's start with technology. I'm sure many of you will argue that it's the games that make a console successful and to an extent, you're absolutely right. But let's not kid ourselves. How powerful a system's graphics capabilities are, play a major role in whether or not that console is successful. "Technology" and "great games" go hand in hand. Think about it

The most "revolutionary" games of the past decade were all made possible by improvements in technology. Games like FFVII, MetalGear, Mario64, and Halo (just to name a few) are examples of how powerful new technologies changed the way we looked and played video games. None of those games would have been possible on the older 16-bit systems no matter how creative/talented game developers were. Games like Mario 64 changed the way we played videogames. They opened up whole new doors and possibilities and inspired a whole new era of gameplay and level design.

Advancements in technology is what allowed these games to be created. Advancements in technology allowed game designers - for the first time - to realise their dreams of creating "virtual worlds" for gamers to play in. I believe that, while it's great games that are the most important reason to buy a new game console, it's technology that allows these games to be made in the first place.

This is what brings me to my biggest problem with Nintendo. Their total "lack of interest" in designing/producing a true "next gen" console to compete with the 360/PS3 in regards to technology.

Now, granted, the system's not even out yet and hardware specs haven't been finalized either, but based on reports and interviews from game developers and even Nintendo officials themselves, I've got a pretty good idea of what to expect from their upcoming "Revolution".

From all the information I've read thus far, the Revolution will be 1.5 - 2x more powerful than the GC which was barely as powerful as the original Xbox at best. What that means is that the graphics and gameplay as well as the games themselves (in terms of level design) will be pretty much the same to what is currently available now on older consoles like PS2/Xbox/GC because the technology simply isn't there to allow developers to "push the envelope" - sort of speak with newer games. You're basically going to see remakes of older games that won't look any better than the games currently available. There's nothing "Next Gen' about that at all.

At least if the Revolution was able to display games in HD, that would at least be something. I wouldn't mind seeing games like RE4 in HD, but the Revolution can't even do that. Not being HD like the other consoles is going to be Nintendo's downfall. Mark my words.

Why is HD so important?

In my opinion, I feel that the jump from standard definition to HD (720P/1080i) is every big a jump as 3D gaming was over 2D. There in lies the biggest problem with Nintendo "Revolution". Not only will it not be able to compete with Sony/MS in terms of raw power and performance but it won't even be able to display games in HD !! Here we are in (almost) 2006, HD televisions are flying off the shelves, HD-DVD and Blue ray are just around the corner, most manufacturer's have already opted to discontinue production of analog televisions and concentrate on replacing there entire line up with HD. Satelite and cabale companies are expanding there HD content almost on a weekly basis. The "HD" era is about to explode into our living rooms and here comes the big "N" with it's so called "next gen" system and they have absolutely no intention on making it HD compatible. WTF ??? Am I the only one who thinks that's a very dumb move on Nintendo's part? I though this was supposed to be a "next gen" console :? Sorry but a controller that looks like a fisher price vcr remote isn't my idea of the "future" of gaming.

HD is not a "trend". HD is here, and it's here to stay. I'm the proud owner of a Sony 60" Grand Wega HD television. I own a HD satelite, an up-converting HDMI dvd player, and own a collection of WM-HD movies I've purchased throughout the years to take advantage of my HD television. I'm not the only one to have this kind of set-up either. There are many, many others with the same. For those of you who haven't seen true HD, trust me, once you've experienced it, there's no turning back. The downside of coarse, is that unless the video source is capable of outputting a signal in 1080i/720p the image quality looks terrible on these new HD sets. All my old game system's (including GC and XBOX) look awful on my new set, simply because they don't display games in HD. I want my next system to take full advantage of my television's performance and the Revolution, sadly, isn't the system that's going to do that.

The Revolution (from a technoligical stand point) seems to be from an entire different decade than the 360 and PS3. For that reason alone, there are going to be many games released for the other two systems that simply won't be possible on Nintendo's console. The crappy one's, I don't care about. It's the good games like Metal Gear, Resident Evil 5, Halo 3, Final Fantasy and Project Gotham City Racing I'm worried about.

The Revolution's ability to play games from the Nintendo's 20+ year library seems like a great idea at first until you realise that they too ( the older games) will look as bad on a new HDTV as they would if they were being played on the original hardware. This "feature isn't so great when you consider that you can just use an emulator and download virtually every Nintendo game ever made onto your computer.

Also, - so long as your Graphics card/CPU is powerful enough- you can play them at HD resolutions with surround sound, improved colours/contrast and graphics and all the other bells and whistles. Super Mario Bros. and Double Dragon never looked so good! I've got just about every NES/SNES/N64/MasterSystem/Genesis?Mame game worth playing all on my laptop hooked up to my t.v displaying all my old favourites in 32bit colour in 1920x1080 resolutions. Why would I (or anybody else) buy the Revolution for it's "backwards compatibility" if it can't even clean up the graphics to work better with our HD sets? (By the way, I also own the origional systems and games so it's okay that I own the roms :) )

I think Nintendo has become a very arrogant and over-confident company. They seem to think they're still at the top of the gaming industry as they were back in the 16-bit days when they released the SNES. Those day's are long gone and Nintendo is loosing ground and loosing fans with every system they've released since the SNES. They're in no position to be so confident. If it weren't for the sales of there Gameboy, they would have turned into a software-only company like Sega did, a long time ago. Even their software as of late, is leaving a lot to be desired.

How many games has Mario been "featured" in? Jesus, I'm seeing him in tennis games, soccer games, "party games", racing games etc. etc. Nintendo's run out of ideas and they're milking poor Mario for all he's worth. Not only that, but with each new system, it's always the same line up. Mario/Zelda/F-zero. Same franchise's over and over and over again. I think it's time Nintendo woke up and smelled the crap they're shoveling. If they don't come out with a more competitive technology with the Revolution to compete with Sony and MS, Their franchise games - no matter how good- and there controller- no matter how quirky- won't be able to save them, at least not in North America anyways.

At this rate, I'm almost certain the Revolution will be Nintendo's last console. Too bad. I used to love Nintendo.....

Nintendo= R.I.P. :-[
 
Re: It's official: Nintendo's "Revolution" is off my "must have" list (My ran

Welcome to the forums! So, first off, the majority of gamers do not have 60'' HD tv's and if they do their probably in the Xbox 360 crowd. I personally loathe the idea of shunning a product because it doesn't suit a tiny fraction of it's purposed market. You have to accept that you are actually in the minority with a set like that. I look at good graphics like this; they're sweet for a while but once the initial "awe" has worn off, all that's left is gameplay. Does Nintendo dissapoint when it comes to gameplay? Nope. And do you really think Metal Gear was as popular as it was for the graphics? I thought it was more the crazy story/dialogue and the gameplay that made it what it was. Now, on the other hand I do admit some games were much improved by better graphics like Resident Evil 1 for the Cube. Oh, that brings up a point, have you seen Resident Evil for cube? I'm sorry but if those graphics aren't good enough for you, you need eye glasses heh. I'm not worried about the Revolution's graphic capabilities in the least, if it has good games I'm buyin' it. Now, for the things I agree with you on. Nintendo is not the king anymore and you're right that they don't seem to acknowledge that fact. They are struggling a bit, but that is largely in part to greedy developers who know they'll make more green going to the other 2. And that's just the problem. Nintendo will never make as much loot as the other 2 as long as they do not get the support, but at the same time nobody wants to support them cause' they don't make the money. It's a very irritating circle that needs to be eradicated in order to keep the business balanced. I do think Nintendo could play a part in solving the problem but that would go against their whole family image and moral values. What I mean is that today, the demand is {sadly} for violent, mature games. A totally garbage, bargain bin game like 50 Cent bulletproof will get more recognition than a genuinely fun and unique game such as Pikmin or Animal Crossing. So really you must ask yourself who is to blame, is Nintendo really at fault for wanting to stick with their companies image of being more family/fun orientated? I have more to write but I don't have the time now :)
 
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I personally don't know ANYBODY, from school/family/friends, that own a HD-TV set. I really don't know why its that important. :? Well, I also don't give a rip about graphics either. It could look awful, but if the game is FUN then I don't care as much how it looks.
 
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x2 said:
Welcome to the forums! So, first off, the majority of gamers do not have 60'' HD tv's and if they do their probably in the Xbox 360 crowd. I personally loathe the idea of shunnning a product because it doesn't suit a tiny fraction of it's purposed market. You have to accept that you are actually in the minority with a set like that. I look at good graphics like this; they're sweet for a while but once the initial "awe" has worn off, all that's left is gameplay. Does Nintendo dissapoint when it comes to gameplay? Nope. And do you really think Metal Gear was as popular as it was for the graphics? I thought it was more the crazy story/dialogue and the gameplay that made it what it was. Now, on the other hand I do admit some games were much imporved by better graphics like Resident Evil 1 for the Cube. Oh, that brings up a point, have you seen Resident Evil for cube? I'm sorry but if those graphics aren't good enough for you, you need eye glasses heh. I'm not worried about the Revolution's graphic capabilities in the least, if it has good games I'm buyin' it. Now, for the things I agree with you on. Nintendo is not the king anymore and you're right that they don't seem to acknowledge that fact. They are struggling a bit, but that is largely in part to greedy developers who know they'll make more green going to the other 2. And that's just the problem. Nintendo will never make as much loot as the other 2 as long as they do not get the support, but at the same time nobody wants to support them cause' they don't make the money. It's a very irritating circle that needs to be eradicated in order to keep the business balanced. I do think Nintendo could play a part in solving the problem but that would go against their whole family image and moral values. What I mean is that today, the demand is {sadly} for violent, mature games. A totally garbage, bargain bin game like 50 Cent bulletproof will get more recognition than a genuinely fun and unique game such as Pikmin or Animal Crossing. So really you must ask yourself who is to blame, is Nintendo really at fault for wanting to stick with their companies image of being more family/fun orientated? I have more to write but I don't have the time now :)

Thanks.

There are some points you made that I agree with but others I don't. For example, you say that MetaGear was a success not because of it's graphics but for it's story/gameplay. I respectfully disagree. The one aspect of the game that got everybody so excited when they first saw it were it's amazing graphics. That's all anybody could talk about because nobody had seen graphics that good, not just in a MetalGear game but on any home console before. I remember looking at prieviews in magazines and online thinking "wow... that games looks awesome!!" I had no idea what the story or gameplay was like, all I knew was that this game had the best graphics I'd ever seen. Myself and probably everybody else who saw the game thought the same.

It was the graphics that drew us to the game. As far as the gameplay, I agree that was a major reason for the games success but the reason why the gamplay was so good was because of the graphics. The jump to 3D changed the MetalGear franchise forever. It changed the way we looked at the game and more importanty, it changed the way we PLAYED the game. That game simply wouldn't have been possible on any other system at the time and it was made possible by the Playstation's powerful chipset and CD-rom format. Like I said, great games are made possible by advancements in technology.

When I made the comment about having a 60" television, I wasn't trying to say that it's common for people to have televisions that big. Obviously most don't. The size of a T.V. isn't the issue here. I was trying to make the point that HD televisions have become so plentiful and cheap that there's no excuse for anybody on the market for a new television, to not buy an HDTV since they now out-number the old analog style at just about any electronic's store you go to.

HD doesn't automatically mean it has to be a "HUGE SCREEN" - HDTV's come in any size you want. Heck any computer monitor is capable of displaying an image at 1280x768 (720p). I'm assuming most of you own atleast one computer monitor since your able to be reading this post right now :lol See what I mean? A computer monitor alone is enough to display HD and most of you already have that and with HDTV's price dropping down literally with each passing week, it's just a matter of time before HDTV takes over. That's just a fact. Why Nintendo choose's to ignore this fact just blows my mind :o

I have Resident Evil 4 on the GC. Bought it the day it came out. It does look awesome ......on a standard television- simply because of the analog television's low resolution which serves to "mask" all the "jaggies" and pixels and what not in the games graphics. Hook up your GC to your computer monitor or an HDTV and it looks aweful because the game does not run at a high-enough resolution to take advantage of your monitor/HDTV. - Sad, I do love that game and wish I could play it on my big screen without all those pixels appearing :(

I agree with you on the part about violent games being the trend lately. I'm not particulary into violent games to begin with - especially garbage that feature "rappers" as their star characters :lol But your comment about Nintendo wanting to hold true to their "moral values" I found a bit funny. The GC's best selling game, and the game that made Nintendo the most money here in N/A- was Resident Evil 4 and that's not exactly a "family friendly" game :lol

The truth of the matter is game publishers didn't go with the GC (or the N64 for that matter) because the system did not have the technology that would provide them with the ability to create the kind of games they wanted to produce. With the GC it was the fact that Nintendo went with a MD format instead of DVD like the competition. Don't know why they did that- I guess they just wanted to be different I suppose- but that cost them a lot. The format itself was expensive and didn't hold nearly as much as DVD. But again, Nintendo just went their own way as usual. The same holds true for the N64 and Nintendo's insistance on staying with cartridge while everybody else thought ahead and went with CD-rom.

The public responded by not buying either of the consoles the way Nintendo had hoped. Nintendo came in dead last with the GC just as they did with the N64 just as they will with the upcomung Revolution. You'd think by now Nintendo would have learned from it's mistakes and started to listen more to it's consumers.

Heck, DVD's have been the standard for the past 5 years now and Nintendo still hasn't been convinced it's a better medium than their mini-disc :lol Maybe in 10 years when everybody else is using holographic storage devices that hold 5000 GB, Nintendo will finally "upgrade" to DVD :lol: ,

Bottom line is this. We want "next gen". We want "next gen graphics. We want next gen Sound. We want a next gen format - HD-DVD/BlueRay AND we want next gen game's - Halo 3/Metal gear/Final Fantasy etc. etc. )

What Nintendo's giving us is recycled technology with recycled games from the past at a cheap price. Sorry, but I want to get a little more "bang for my buck" when I spend my hard earned money on a new console. :-\

Hopefully though, I'm wrong and the Revolution will be better than what people expext it to be. Hoefully, it will atleast be able to do HD at the very least. If not, sorry, if I want to play old games, I'll play my roms.....
 
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aleeock157 said:
I personally don't know ANYBODY, from school/family/friends, that own a HD-TV set. I really don't know why its that important. :?

Let's put it this way. Would you ever want to play your videogames or watch your t.v. progams on a black & white television?? Of coarse not !! Colour is so much better right??

Well, same holds true for HDTV. Once you've seen it in action, you just can't go back to analog. :p The difference is every bit as big from HDTV and analog as colour was over black and white. Trust me. :)


aleeock157 said:
Well, I also don't give a rip about graphics either. It could look awful, but if the game is FUN then I don't care as much how it looks.

Yes you do care about graphics. Everybody does otherwise we'd all still be playing "pong" on the Atari 2600. That was a super fun game too ::)

What about movies? I'm sure all of you still buy movies on VHS tapes right? Why would anybody want to upgrade to DVD? As long as the movie is fun to watch, who care's about how good it looks/sounds? - Just something to think about...
 
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as for the HDTV thing I agree and disagree it is going to take over eventually but I dont think it is going to happen this soon I think HDtv is not going to be that big of an issue untill the generation after this one.
 
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Heh, I know HD means High Definition yes but my point still stands. I, like Aleeock, do not personally know one person with an HD set. With that said, until they out right stop making analog sets we should not be upset if a console does not cater to the HD scene. Like I said you are in the minority, for now at least. I also never did say the Cube has no mature games on it, there's a few yes but not enough for todays audience. I can't cover everything you said but from what I gather you have already thrown in the towel on the Revolution solely because it doesn't have HD support which is really kind of sad. But,we are all different creatures so I am not saying you are wrong in your choice per say. I just am the kind of gamer that I'd take one great Zelda game on my analog set over 20 bargain bin games in HD. That's really what you're going to get ya' know? Sure it will be cool to see Halo 3 in HD or w/e but it's really not some monumental leap for gaming. I don't know, I think you get where I'm coming from. You shouldn't diss the Revolution till' it's out for a while. If it doesn't have the games your complaints will not go unfounded, but just give it time.
 
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I agree to a certain extent. Yes, the TV market is changing, but the majority of people are still stuck with regular TVs.


Nintendo ignoring change will not stop change.
 
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Just for the record, I never thought PS1 graphics were good.  :lol
I don't know why, but they always look like $&*% to me. I thought the 64 was leagues ahead of it...

In any case I think Nintendo is making a bit a of a mistake by not even trying to compete technology-wise with Sony or Microsoft. We all know that it is the games that make the system, and all that jazz, but no one wants to shell out a couple hundred bucks for a system that isn't much more powerful than the one they already own. It seems like it might have been smarter to make a peripheral controller for the Gamecube and just use that instead.

However, I don't agree that the jump to HD graphics was as big as the jump from 2d to 3d. 3d really did change the way we played games. HD just changes the way we view them...
 
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You ALL have the ability to watch programming and play videogames in HD. Wanna know how? I'll give you a hint: You're looking at it RIGHT NOW !! :lol









for those of you who haven't figured it out yet, I'm talking about your computer monitor. As long as it can display 1280x768 that's all you need for HD. Now don't you wish the Revolution could do HD? (I know you do) :p J/k
 
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Would you ever want to play your videogames or watch your t.v. progams on a black & white television?? Of coarse not !! Colour is so much better right??

There's quite a difference between color and sharpness.

Also, many of the games you listed as "revolutionary" had made a jump from 2D to 3D. There's also quite a big difference between sprites and 3D models, and the change is significantly less between this gen and next.

I don't have an HDTV either, and I'm sure they look nice, and I do think that Nintnedo made the mistake of not using it though. One of their main reasons to not push it was not to shun small developers. There aren't very many small developers out there that try something different right now, they do what they know works, such as generic FPS #1537.
 
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For anyone's seen seen HD in action, take my word for it, it's not just the clarity or "sharpness" that's 10x better. It's the vividness of the colours, and the overall image itself just looks a lot "fuller" and more "solid" looking. Have you ever turned up the contrast on your t.v's to the point where your reds, blue's and greens were so rich in colour that they "bloomed" to the point where they oversaturated the image on screen and the colour leaked passed the edges of the images on screen? Sure the colours were nice and bright, full of life but the picture looked awful 'cause the colours looked like they were melting all over the screen :lol Well, with HDTV, the colors are ALWAYS that bright and colorful and you won't get any of the "blooming effects"

To say that HDTV isn't that big a deal over standard t.v, is like saying that watching a movie on VHS on a 20 year RCA is not much different than watching the same movie on an up-scaling DVD player connected to a HD monitor is just silly. The movie itself maybe the same, but because of the much improved picture& sound provided by DVD the experience is completely different. You all have DVD's I'm sure, and I'm sure you'll agree that watching a movie on DVD is 10 better than watching a movie on an old VHS tape. The image quality and sound improvements make all the difference in the world even though the content is the same.

I still stand by my claim that HDV is as big a jump over analog as colour was over B&W. I'm sure back when RCA first released the colour t.v. there were many people who wondered why anybody would want one. B&W was just fine the way it was. No sense in upgrading to a whole new television. After all, the programming was the same no matter what television you used :lol

Same holds true now I suppose. Many wonder why you'd want HD. Well, once you've seen it, you'll understand. You'll also understand how big a mistake Nintendo is making by not making it's "next gen" system HD compatible like SONY and MICROSOFT.

After running this set-up for the past 6 month's, there's no way I can ever go back. You will all "see the light" eventually........

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OK Like I said i agree that HD will take over but its not going to happen this quick.

when color first came out it did not take over black and white right away.

I will not Deny HD does look nice but it is not like you cant live without it

at my moms house we have an HD tv and at my dads we dont and it doesnt bother me at all

When I first watched the HD tv I was amazed but after a little while the innitial awww wore off and now it is not that big of a deal to me. I dont really even notice the difference anymore. Im not saying that there is no Difference cause there is its just that after a while it just blends in
 
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welcome to the boards :)
we hope to see you around.

btw... how did you get that avatar up there?

I don't remember adding that one....  :lol

as for my opinions on this topic... see the rev section..... I honestly think Nintendo is either going to do really well... or fail in gaining more market share.  Their ideas are good, they strategy is good, so is their implementation, but they are taking a risky road in trying to make themselves more unique..... it could pay off though.  But come on... how can you deny downloads all Nintendo games? :D AND it will at least be 2x a Gamecube.

†B†V† :hat
 
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Bluevoodu said:
welcome to the boards :)
we hope to see you around.

btw... how did you get that avatar up there?

I don't remember adding that one.... :lol

as for my opinions on this topic... see the rev section..... I honestly think Nintendo is either going to do really well... or fail in gaining more market share. Their ideas are good, they strategy is good, so is their implementation, but they are taking a risky road in trying to make themselves more unique..... it could pay off though. But come on... how can you deny downloads all Nintendo games? :D AND it will at least be 2x a Gamecube.

†B†V† :hat

Thanks. Of all the avatar's available, I thought this one suited me the most :lol

In all honesty, I think one of two things is going to happen when the REV is finally released. Either:

A) - It fails miserably and Nintendo reveals that the REV will be their last attempt at releasing a home console
B) - They maintain their already small and dwindling fan base and fly completely under the public's radar like they did with the GC. It will be purchased by parents for their children but shunned by all the hard core gamers....

There's not a snow ball's chance in hell they'll beat the 360 or the PS3 in sales or market share. No chance at all. :(

The problem is that Nintendo seems to only want to cator to "casual gamers" with their super-easy, child-like games. By doing this, they're alienating all the hard core gamers. The very same people that made Nintendo the successful company it is today. I think that's a big mistake. You should never bite the hand that feeds you.....

Only time will tell.... :-\
 
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LT1FUN said:
Thanks.  Of all the avatar's available, I thought this one suited me the most  :lol

In all honesty, I think one of two things is going to happen when the REV is finally released.  Either:

A) - It fails miserably andNintendo reveals that the REV will be their last attempt at releasing a home console 
B) - They maintain their already small and dwindling fan base and fly completely under the public's radar like they did with the GC.  Bought for children by their parents but shunned by all the hard core gamers....

There's not a snow ball's chance in hell they'll beat the 360 or the PS3 in sales or market share.  No chance at all.

The problem is that Nintendo seems to only want to cator to "casual gamers" with their super-easy, child-like games.  By doing this, they're alienating all the hard core gamers.  The very same people that made Nintendo the successful company it is today.  I think that's a big mistake.  You should never bite the hand that feeds you..... 

ok, I understand what you are saying :) but anymore, isn't the casual gamer that wants the high end graphics for a cheap price? The DS doesn't have near the graphics as the psp.... but the DS is still ahead. Not much, but it is never-the-less ahead and holding its own right now.

Like I said.... it is not a bad strategy... especially when people aren't able to fork out that much money for a system... the casual gamer cannot.... people will swear they can left and right, but I hear all the time how people say they won't buy it because it is too expensive (I am not saying that they are bad systems BY ANY MEANS :) ). If the revolution comes out at $100-150, can provide backwards compatibility to the Gamecube... plus downloads from the N64 to the NES, plus provide killer gameplay on these games.... I think they have something good going for them. When I 1st learned of the Xbox 360 price, I couldn't imagine how people were going to be able to pay for it.... that is the "casual" gamer. $400... and that is not even with a game.

The only problem so far with the revolution.... is they decided to stick with the smaller discs again and I think that will bite them more than anything.

Bv :hat
 
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I said it before but i think the Rev will do one of 2 things

1) it will not do well but it will manage like the game cube

or

2) It will jump out of no where slapping Sony and Microsoft on its way to the top


But the more I hear about it the more I think it is going to be  scenario #1
 
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Bluevoodu said:
ok, I understand what you are saying :) but anymore, isn't the casual gamer that wants the high end graphics for a cheap price? The DS doesn't have near the graphics as the psp.... but the DS is still ahead. Not much, but it is never-the-less ahead and holding its own right now.

Like I said.... it is not a bad strategy... especially when people aren't able to fork out that much money for a system... the casual gamer cannot.... people will swear they can left and right, but I hear all the time how people say they won't buy it because it is too expensive (I am not saying that they are bad systems BY ANY MEANS :) ). If the revolution comes out at $100-150, can provide backwards compatibility to the Gamecube... plus downloads from the N64 to the NES, plus provide killer gameplay on these games.... I think they have something good going for them. When I 1st learned of the Xbox 360 price, I couldn't imagine how people were going to be able to pay for it.... that is the "casual" gamer. $400... and that is not even with a game.

The only problem so far with the revolution.... is they decided to stick with the smaller discs again and I think that will bite them more than anything.

Bv :hat

Agreed 100% ;)

If they do manage to release the REV for $99-$150 it'd be stupid not to pick one up just for the hell of being able to play all the old games. (Unless of coarse, you already have all of them- be it on the origional cartridge format or in roms)

The price of game systems has gotton out of hand. It got out of hand when the Saturn and PS1 came out and it's gotton progressivly worse ever since. Here in Canada, they were selling "combo systems" which was the 360 and like 2 games for like $800. Add in taxes and a second controller and your lookiing at almost $1000 :o

Oh well, what can you do :-[ This is becoming an expensive hobby....
 
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LT1FUN said:
Let's put it this way. Would you ever want to play your videogames or watch your t.v. progams on a black & white television?? Of coarse not !! Colour is so much better right??

Well, same holds true for HDTV. Once you've seen it in action, you just can't go back to analog. :p The difference is every bit as big from HDTV and analog as colour was over black and white. Trust me. :)



Yes you do care about graphics. Everybody does otherwise we'd all still be playing "pong" on the Atari 2600. That was a super fun game too ::)

What about movies? I'm sure all of you still buy movies on VHS tapes right? Why would anybody want to upgrade to DVD? As long as the movie is fun to watch, who care's about how good it looks/sounds? - Just something to think about...

Wow, I feel really poor now or something. We DO still have black and white tvs in our house and use them. The only color tvs are the living room set and my room...
:-\

I buy VHS tapes all the time cause my PS2 has been broke for a while now and won't play half the things I put in there and our dvd player is some off-brand piece-of-crap that makes some loud buzzing noise when I play it so I'm afraid to use it. :-\

Well, anywhos... I suck at debating and I'm way too tired to do so, so I'll just leave now. *waves* buh bye
 
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aleeock157 said:
Wow, I feel really poor now or something. We DO still have black and white tvs in our house and use them. The only color tvs are the living room set and my room...
:-\

I buy VHS tapes all the time cause my PS2 has been broke for a while now and won't play half the things I put in there and our dvd player is some off-brand piece-of-crap that makes some loud buzzing noise when I play it so I'm afraid to use it. :-\

Well, anywhos... I suck at debating and I'm way too tired to do so, so I'll just leave now. *waves* buh bye

:lol Nice post.

Don't diss the old t.v.'s I still love'em.

I've got 2 "retro rooms" in the basement. One's my bedroom and I got an RCA 25" monster that weighs about 350lbs 'cause it's built into a solid oak cabinet :lol The other room is my games room which holds "THE BEAST" :lol A Zenith 21" or something that weighs about as much as a Volkswagon beetle. No remote's back then but it does have a rotary channel switcher labeled 2-13 :o I've got my 2600/NES/MasterSystem/Turbographix/Genesis and SNES hooked to it via a switch box I modified to work with the t.v's RF output :lol My parents want to get rid of both of them but I won't let them. Even if I did, there'd be no way of getting them out of the house without tearing down the first floor and lifting them out with a crane :lol

The 80's rocked !!! 8) x1000
 
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