Light Gun Shell Revealed!

Bluevoodu said:
How was it the case with the Gamecube?

btw... having a bunch of different shells would be cool imo... instead of a bunch of seperate controllers.

†B†V† :hat
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Yep. I completely agree on both points.
 
Sartori said:
Gamecube controller. I assume you have one? It's very much standard.
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I do, but what about the rest? Im sure Nintendo will get some new fans that don't have a GC. As of right now I still see it as a novelty. I want to get my hands on it though.
 
How was it the case with the Gamecube?

btw... having a bunch of different shells would be cool imo... instead of a bunch of seperate controllers.
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Different shells are a neat idea, until you look at the price tag on each one.

Games like Zelda: Four Swords and FF:Crystal Chronicles shoved connectivity down my throat. As well, WW gameplay expanded with a connected GBA, Animal Crossing exploited the "E-card reader", Splinter Cell even had extra weapons or levels when connected to the GBA version.

These are but a few of the examples I readily recall.

If you only spent money on the GC console and memory cards/controllers for it, you were only getting part of the experience of certain games, and other games were completely unplayable.

These are all OPTIONAL. Feel free to not buy them if they aren't of interest to you. Nobody shoved the GBP down your throat, don't make it sound that way.
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If I wanted to restrict the amount of playable games on the GC, then it was completely optional. But if I wanted to be able to play every game on the GC, and if I wanted to access all the available features of key GC titles, then I could not do this with the console alone.

All I'm saying is, if you're the type of person that would rather wait to save up for the more expensive but fully loaded 360, you might want to take into account Nintendo's history of console peripherals. Separate broadband adapter on the GC, expansion pak mandatory for select 64 titles... Nintendo has a habit of peripheralizing (yes I did just verb a word :D) everything. The Wii seems rife with peripheral possibilities, especially with it's unique controller.
 
Well Im going to take back most of what Ive said in this topic because I just saw the "Retro-mote" which will be used for the older games and such. I still don't know if Ill get this peripheral or not.
 
stealth toilet said:
Different shells are a neat idea, until you look at the price tag on each one.

Games like Zelda: Four Swords and FF:Crystal Chronicles shoved connectivity down my throat. As well, WW gameplay expanded with a connected GBA, Animal Crossing exploited the "E-card reader", Splinter Cell even had extra weapons or levels when connected to the GBA version.

These are but a few of the examples I readily recall.

If you only spent money on the GC console and memory cards/controllers for it, you were only getting part of the experience of certain games, and other games were completely unplayable.

If I wanted to restrict the amount of playable games on the GC, then it was completely optional. But if I wanted to be able to play every game on the GC, and if I wanted to access all the available features of key GC titles, then I could not do this with the console alone.

All I'm saying is, if you're the type of person that would rather wait to save up for the more expensive but fully loaded 360, you might want to take into account Nintendo's history of console peripherals. Separate broadband adapter on the GC, expansion pak mandatory for select 64 titles... Nintendo has a habit of peripheralizing (yes I did just verb a word :D) everything. The Wii seems rife with peripheral possibilities, especially with it's unique controller.
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The same could be said of lacking X Box live. You're not getting "the whole game" without buying in. Shrug.
 
Games like Zelda: Four Swords and FF:Crystal Chronicles shoved connectivity down my throat.
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No they didn't. I'm willing to bet Nintendo assumed that considering the GBA is the highest selling handheld system, they figured your friends would have one too.

WHat you're saying is no different from buying an MMORPG like Phantasy Star and complaining that they force you online.
 
The same could be said of lacking X Box live. You're not getting "the whole game" without buying in. Shrug.
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Oh I agree with that (especially in the cases of Crimson Skies and Ninja Gaiden where extra planes and better camera angles are downloadable). Even Sony's multitap is a complete scam.

But Xbox Live enabled games still can be played without buying into the "extras." Games like FF:CC and Zelda: 4 Swords cannot.

No they didn't. I'm willing to bet Nintendo assumed that considering the GBA is the highest selling handheld system, they figured your friends would have one too.
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I've heard this response before, and really, it's silly. Just because I own a gamecube does not mean I own a handheld system at all, let alone Nintendo's. If the games were still at least somewhat playable on the GC alone (and realistically they easily could have been) then I wouldn't have griped about it... as much. :lol

All I'm saying is, $60 games are bad enough, and tacking on an extra $30 for a controller shell to play the game is even worse.
 
Sartori said:
The same could be said of lacking X Box live. You're not getting "the whole game" without buying in. Shrug.
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So is it true that you're not getting "the whole game" when you have to buy a Game Boy Advance and the game just to play multiplayer with a friend?
 
stealth toilet said:
And how many different "shells" are Microsoft making for their 360 controller? You buy one 360 controller, and that's it, you're done. You don't need to buy any other accessories or "shells" or anything like that to "enhance" or "fundamentally change" how the game plays.
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While that may be the case, what about the Play & Charge kit or the Fast Charge kit? Rechargeable batteries? Regular batteries? No matter what system or what controller you decide on, there will always be extra costs. Unless you want to use the wired controller for the XBOX 360, but most people won't. So even with the 360, if you're going to use the wireless controller on a regular basis, you're going to either need to use batteries or to use the rechargeable battery, and either way you're going to be spending some money.
 
While that may be the case, what about the Play & Charge kit or the Fast Charge kit? Rechargeable batteries? Regular batteries? No matter what system or what controller you decide on, there will always be extra costs. Unless you want to use the wired controller for the XBOX 360, but most people won't. So even with the 360, if you're going to use the wireless controller on a regular basis, you're going to either need to use batteries or to use the rechargeable battery, and either way you're going to be spending some money.
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As you pointed out yourself, the alternative does exist.

But the comparison itself seems somewhat indirect. It's not like "x" 360 game requires you buy "y" recharge kit. Nor would buying "y" recharge kit make "x" game any more fun or enhance the experience in any way.

But I don't want this to turn into a "which company screws over their customers the worst" arguement. I hate peripherals in general, from memory cards to rechargeable batteries, they all suck. :lol
 
stealth toilet said:
As you pointed out yourself, the alternative does exist.

But the comparison itself seems somewhat indirect. It's not like "x" 360 game requires you buy "y" recharge kit. Nor would buying "y" recharge kit make "x" game any more fun or enhance the experience in any way.

But I don't want this to turn into a "which company screws over their customers the worst" arguement. I hate peripherals in general, from memory cards to rechargeable batteries, they all suck.  :lol
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ok... lets look at it this way.  IF you get a light gun game for the Xbox or Ps2... you have to EITHER BUY the more expensive $60-70 version of the game to get a Guncon.... OR you have to buy a 3rd party gun.  Either way, you have to get more to play this light gun game.

They should have used the mock design for the real design :) It looks better ... but it's still cool either way.

Bv :hat
 
stealth toilet said:
Oh I agree with that (especially in the cases of Crimson Skies and Ninja Gaiden where extra planes and better camera angles are downloadable). Even Sony's multitap is a complete scam.

But Xbox Live enabled games still can be played without buying into the "extras." Games like FF:CC and Zelda: 4 Swords cannot.

I've heard this response before, and really, it's silly. Just because I own a gamecube does not mean I own a handheld system at all, let alone Nintendo's. If the games were still at least somewhat playable on the GC alone (and realistically they easily could have been) then I wouldn't have griped about it... as much. :lol

All I'm saying is, $60 games are bad enough, and tacking on an extra $30 for a controller shell to play the game is even worse.
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Who said anything about 60 dollar games?


Oh yeah. Sony and Microsoft.
 
Now, now Nintendo is not completely guiltless when it comes to $60 games. Remember that new N64 games would run upwards of $65 plus tax.
 
Tommy V said:
Now, now Nintendo is not completely guiltless when it comes to $60 games. Remember that new N64 games would run upwards of $65 plus tax.
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Cartridge.

Now we're all in the neo age of CD Rom-style technology.. it's an equal playing field, but the prices don't match up . .
 
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