Man, the PS3 doesn't get any love...

I think sony deserves this. They make us pay a ton for the PS3 (sure its a "good deal", but I remember when the PSP was a "good deal" for the price and that sucked) then they announce all these games that mostly appeal to the Japanese gaming market and hardcore Sony fans (ex. FF 13, MGS4, DMC4). I would be more forgiving if they had a better lineup of games for the next year or so. 8)
 
Funny thing is, ever since I got Rainbow Six: Vegas 3 weeks ago I have not touched my PS3. But, as I said all along, I love the 360 more; but for what you get with the PS3 the price is not that bad. And, of course, I would much rather the PS3 be $399.99 also. I hate to lose money!
 
neogeofl said:
Funny thing is, ever since I got Rainbow Six: Vegas 3 weeks ago I have not touched my PS3. But, as I said all along, I love the 360 more; but for what you get with the PS3 the price is not that bad. And, of course, I would much rather the PS3 be $399.99 also. I hate to lose money!
It doesn't matter if $600 dollars is a good deal for the price. The PSP was a good deal for the price (in terms of its various features), but came out with crap games so it sucked. In the end, it won't matter if the PS3 has blu-ray and all those other feature. It will just come down to the games sony puts on the market and it looks like they'll be failing in that category at least through 2007. 8)
 
Homicidal Cherry53 said:
It doesn't matter if $600 dollars is a good deal for the price.  The PSP was a good deal for the price (in terms of its various features), but came out with crap games so it sucked.  In the end, it won't matter if the PS3 has blu-ray and all those other feature.  It will just come down to the games sony puts on the market and it looks like they'll be failing in that category at least through 2007.  8)

The PS2 had great games and I am sure Sony is smart enough to put out more great games on the PS3. Sony has been around long enough to know how this all works. The PSP was not a good price for what you got at first with only 32MB. You cannot store much on that!
 
Also, I wound up returning my PS3 to Wal-Mart this morning. Not because I do not like it, but I got hit with a $1,000 increase in my Home Insurance (FL with hurricanes = crappy rates now). So, I sold the Wii and PS3 and made my money back + a profit on the Wii. But, I do have 2 - 360 Premium Systems for me and the kids and am going to buy a PS2 for my wife to play her DaVinci Code and so I can still play GOW and Shadow of the Colossus.
 
neogeofl said:
Also, I wound up returning my PS3 to Wal-Mart this morning.  Not because I do not like it, but I got hit with a $1,000 increase in my Home Insurance (FL with hurricanes = crappy rates now).  So, I sold the Wii and PS3 and made my money back + a profit on the Wii.  But, I do have 2 - 360 Premium Systems for me and the kids and am going to buy a PS2 for my wife to play her DaVinci Code and so I can still play GOW and Shadow of the Colossus.

*high fives neogeofl*
 
neogeofl said:
The PS2 had great games and I am sure Sony is smart enough to put out more great games on the PS3. Sony has been around long enough to know how this all works. The PSP was not a good price for what you got at first with only 32MB. You cannot store much on that!
I don't doubt that there will be some great games on the PS3...eventually, but I don't see any games to really get exctied over that are set for release this year and early next year. 8)
 
Yeah, PS3's games aren't impressing me at all. And it looks like there's no promising games coming out anytime soon. So unless you like big 60GB machines that take up a lot of room and gather dust easily, just no reason to have a PS3 at this point in time. When God of War 3 comes out, then we'll talk.

~Jack
 
Jack said:
Yeah, PS3's games aren't impressing me at all. And it looks like there's no promising games coming out anytime soon. So unless you like big 60GB machines that take up a lot of room and gather dust easily, just no reason to have a PS3 at this point in time. When God of War 3 comes out, then we'll talk.

~Jack
Has God of War 3 even been confirmed yet? 8)
 
Homicidal Cherry53 said:
I don't doubt that there will be some great games on the PS3...eventually, but I don't see any games to really get exctied over that are set for release this year and early next year.  8)

LAIR!!!! That is the game I wanted so badly, but they keep delaying it.
 
Homicidal Cherry53 said:
Has God of War 3 even been confirmed yet? 8)

Yes, at a game awards expo, David Jaffe said that they were in the thought process of a third addition to the series.
 
neogeofl said:
When you add the wireless adapter, the HD-DVD Add-on, and 40GB more to the 20GB HD that comes with the 360; you are now at almost $800.00 for the 360.
And now let's think of all the things we need to actually play games. The console, the controller it comes with, and a game. That is the whole point of a game system. Not the definition of movies it can play, not the number of USB ports, but the games. For people who want to just play games, it's a total waste of money. And let's face it, most gamers want games, not USB ports. Also, touching on the Wii is for little kids thing(eight months later), it really isn't. It is, in fact, for everyone. Let's ignore the fact that it has games everyone can play and a simplistic learning curve. The price. $250, a Wiimote/nunchuk, and a game. It serves its purpose. It can play a game right out of the box, without needing to even buy one. No bunch of extra stuff that's not even required to play games and jacks up the price as a result. And that helps. Majorly. Everyone can buy a Wii. Only the hardcores who want/can afford to shell out $600 on a PS3 can get one. That throws off so many potential buyers.

Most homeowners would rather pay bills than buy a PS3, or do some important things with that money, because $600 is way too much to play games. If Sony dropped all that extra crap, and just keep what they HAD to(which would be standard discs, let's face, Sony would dominate again if they were all on standard discs, they really didn't need to try and up the competition, they had this generation from name alone until it had Blu-Ray), it would sell fast. It would get good games because of it. It would get more games, since it'd be easier to develop for. It didn't need Blu-Ray. Nothing even needs Blu-Ray right now. Pretty much everything is still standard, and people are fine with it. Standard discs don't strain your eyes to watch, they're just fine. Why should people get this better thing if they have to shell out so much money and not even need it? In the long run, once Blu-Ray becomes cheap, it might pay off, but who's to say Blu-Ray will be the standard by the end of the PS3's life? What if HD wins? What if it stays standard for longer? At this point, we really don't need anything beyond that. Sony pretty much has this whole generation riding on this gamble with the format war. And it's bad for the PS3. Sony's already doing fine with their Blu-Ray players, why did they need to put it in the PS3? Bigger discs? Sure, but a week before the PS3 came out, we were totally fine with the normal sized discs. Hell, even now, ten months after it's released, we're still fine with normal discs.

Sure, huge discs might be a nice feature, but it's an unnecessary feature. And once again, it raises the price. A higher price only alienates more people, and why does Sony need that? They could have done just fine with standard discs and stronger graphics, living off the PS2 name in both gamer's eyes and developer's eyes, but they chose the expensive risk. And if it doesn't pay off, will there be a PS4? Will they try the same thing with it? And even if the PS3 succeeds, it's missed the point entirely. You're supposed to get game consoles for games, not the shiny processors and large memory space. I'm not saying the PS3 isn't focused on games anymore, but with everything the PS3 has done that isn't required, it really hasn't won(if it does in the end). At least in my eyes.
 
AHH!!! THE WALL OF TEXT IS CRUSHING ME!!! SOMEONE HELP!!! :lol (seriously, an 8 month old bump+gigantic wall of text...lol)

As for Blu-Ray, I'm just gonna say that as the generation goes on, it will give the PS3 a decisive hardware advantage. It isn't apparent now because the generation has just begun, and all the consoles aren't being used to anywhere near their full potential.

Also, the PS3 is gonna be a deciding factor in why Blu-Ray will, in all likelyhood, win the format war. Without it, who knows what the outcome would be?
 
I personally think Blu-Ray players will more. When I get a PS3(when they're only $200), I'm buying it for the games, not the Blu-Ray. If I want to watch stuff in Blu-Ray, I'll pick up a Blu-Ray player. And one more time, Blu-Ray could win the format war, but that doesn't mean it will become standard all of a sudden.

EDIT: There, better? I poorly broke it, but I broke it.
 
Strubes said:
Yeah, the Wii's a complementary system. The 360's the real deal.

maybe for you, but my wii is good enough for me (maybe because my real deal is the DS :lol)

as for the ps3 and 360 i still thing they are both great systems with some flaws (yeah the 360 has flaws don't deny it) however i kind of like the ps3 more than the 360 (right now, i always change my mind XD) but my number one is always the wii (well i like more the DS but we're talking about consoles)
 
fhqwhgads said:
And now let's think of all the things we need to actually play games. The console, the controller it comes with, and a game. That is the whole point of a game system. Not the definition of movies it can play, not the number of USB ports, but the games. For people who want to just play games, it's a total waste of money. And let's face it, most gamers want games, not USB ports. Also, touching on the Wii is for little kids thing(eight months later), it really isn't. It is, in fact, for everyone. Let's ignore the fact that it has games everyone can play and a simplistic learning curve. The price. $250, a Wiimote/nunchuk, and a game. It serves its purpose. It can play a game right out of the box, without needing to even buy one. No bunch of extra stuff that's not even required to play games and jacks up the price as a result. And that helps. Majorly. Everyone can buy a Wii. Only the hardcores who want/can afford to shell out $600 on a PS3 can get one. That throws off so many potential buyers.

Most homeowners would rather pay bills than buy a PS3, or do some important things with that money, because $600 is way too much to play games. If Sony dropped all that extra crap, and just keep what they HAD to(which would be standard discs, let's face, Sony would dominate again if they were all on standard discs, they really didn't need to try and up the competition, they had this generation from name alone until it had Blu-Ray), it would sell fast. It would get good games because of it. It would get more games, since it'd be easier to develop for. It didn't need Blu-Ray. Nothing even needs Blu-Ray right now. Pretty much everything is still standard, and people are fine with it. Standard discs don't strain your eyes to watch, they're just fine. Why should people get this better thing if they have to shell out so much money and not even need it? In the long run, once Blu-Ray becomes cheap, it might pay off, but who's to say Blu-Ray will be the standard by the end of the PS3's life? What if HD wins? What if it stays standard for longer? At this point, we really don't need anything beyond that. Sony pretty much has this whole generation riding on this gamble with the format war. And it's bad for the PS3. Sony's already doing fine with their Blu-Ray players, why did they need to put it in the PS3? Bigger discs? Sure, but a week before the PS3 came out, we were totally fine with the normal sized discs. Hell, even now, ten months after it's released, we're still fine with normal discs.

Sure, huge discs might be a nice feature, but it's an unnecessary feature. And once again, it raises the price. A higher price only alienates more people, and why does Sony need that? They could have done just fine with standard discs and stronger graphics, living off the PS2 name in both gamer's eyes and developer's eyes, but they chose the expensive risk. And if it doesn't pay off, will there be a PS4? Will they try the same thing with it? And even if the PS3 succeeds, it's missed the point entirely. You're supposed to get game consoles for games, not the shiny processors and large memory space. I'm not saying the PS3 isn't focused on games anymore, but with everything the PS3 has done that isn't required, it really hasn't won(if it does in the end). At least in my eyes.

For the people who just want to play games buy the Wii. If you're looking for an entertainment king, go for the PS3 or 360. It's that simple.
 
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