Stealth is wrong!

Strubes said:
A lot of people here will agree with me that great games are few and far between so I'm fine taking that stance.
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that might be true but here is not the rest of the world. and here is one person in the world that disagrees with you on this topic no matter what, as a result is think is better just to try to understand each other a little more to reach a pacific conclusion (yeah i know it doesn't sound like me but i'm tired)
 
Strubes said:
The Wii's struggling with software sales. That's a fact.
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No, it's not. Four of the top ten games of the month were Wii games, Mario Kart Wii sold over a million copies in three days, and(if I could find the statement at the moment) Nintendo themselves have said the Wii has a 6.03 attach rate.
 
Strubes said:
I've tried over 20...probably owned over 20 as well. The Wii's struggling with software sales. That's a fact.
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13 of my 25 Wii games are quality :D

While the Wii is struggling somewhat with software sales (and it is fact they are having some troubles)... I don't think it's to the point of what it's being blown up as.

And The good games on the Wii are being overlooked... and also, so is the fact that Gamecube game sales have gone up now as well.

Part of the lack of Wii game sales could be because of the increase of Gamecube games.

FUNNY thing is that people are finally realizing many of the good games the Gamecube did have for it. The DS had the same problem initially... but I doubt anyone remembers that. Give the Wii till the end of the year and into next year and I think you will see things sorted out.

I am personally waiting to see the market start to crumble a bit. I think the overall industry figures are somehow inflated (personal opinion)... from seeing reports and signs of how items are selling, I don't see the ends meeting ... especially in this temporary economic downturn in the US. Granted, this is a personal opinion, but I think people will slow down on all systems all together. If you look, besides games like Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Grand Theft Auto 4, Call of Duty 4, Unreal Tournament 3, and a few others... games aren't selling well into the millions. In fact, good games that aren't mid to high 9 ratings aren't making the marks they used to. Although I do not have all the evidence to back this up, I think it's been a total decline across the board.

†B†V† :hat
 
Strubes said:
I've tried over 20...probably owned over 20 as well. The Wii's struggling with software sales. That's a fact.
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It's averaging 3.5 games per Wii owner versus 4.5 on the 360 and PS3 (I don't remember the exact statistics, but it's close to that). The fact that the Wii has now sold what, 22 million consoles worldwide means it has thus far sold more software than the PS3 and possibly the 360 (I don't feel like doing the math here, and don't have exact statistics). So basically, the fact that Wii owners buy fewer games is made up for by the shear number of Wii owners.
 
I would like to see a source on those numbers if you can pull one up.

for the analysts to be complaining that the wii is 1 game behind per customer in average sales... is stupid. I could understand MAYBE 3... for as big of a stink as they were.

but the other systems are only getting 4.5 average games per customer... 3.5 - 4.5 IMO doesn't exactly show a significant lag in sales.

What about overall software sales per system... (I am talking all games sold regardless of developer per system)?

†B†V† :hat
 
Homicidal Cherry53 said:
It's averaging 3.5 games per Wii owner versus 4.5 on the 360 and PS3 (I don't remember the exact statistics, but it's close to that). The fact that the Wii has now sold what, 22 million consoles worldwide means it has thus far sold more software than the PS3 and possibly the 360 (I don't feel like doing the math here, and don't have exact statistics). So basically, the fact that Wii owners buy fewer games is made up for by the shear number of Wii owners.
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Not only that, but who ever really buys more than 4-5 games per console each year, regardless? I thought about it, and I think some years I don't even buy 5 games! So I guess those stats are sort of irrelevant, IMO.
 
Not to mention, the Wii has a bigger disadvantage in attach rate. It's sold more consoles, so the number is lower. If there's 1000 games sold on two systems, and one of them has sold 100 units, that one has 10.0 per console. But if the other has sold 200, it becomes 5.0 per console. Same exact software sales, but a lower rate for one.
 
I remember hearing statistics that 360 had an attach rate of over 7, and that in recent months the Wii managed to just crack six. And while both the annual games purchased stat of 4.5 vs. 3.5 and the attach rate of 7 vs 6 are only one digit apart, we are talking a difference of millions in terms of games being sold.

In any event, I don't think either statistic is that important. It doesn't say anything about the quality of games on each console, or overall value, or anything like that. I suppose it could be used for "bragging rights" in some odd way, but I don't think either statistic really affects the gamer population. One could easily argue that good games are being overlooked, or bad games are being purchased, and so this statistic shows nothing more than the ignorance of people buying games.
 
Bluevoodu said:
I would like to see a source on those numbers if you can pull one up.
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Okay, here's the article I got the info from.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/04/21/nytimes-looks-at-wiis-software-sales-problem/

So, the Wii has a 3.7 attach rate per year, the 360 has a 4.7 per year, and the PS3 has a 4.6 per year. I was sort of close. XD

stealth toilet said:
In any event, I don't think either statistic is that important. It doesn't say anything about the quality of games on each console, or overall value, or anything like that. I suppose it could be used for "bragging rights" in some odd way, but I don't think either statistic really affects the gamer population. One could easily argue that good games are being overlooked, or bad games are being purchased, and so this statistic shows nothing more than the ignorance of people buying games.
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I didn't use attach rates as proof of any console's quality. I used it to counter the fact that the Wii is struggling in terms of software sales. Even though it has a lower attach rate per year, the sheer number of Wii owners means that Nintendo is still reaping in huge software sales, and profits. So I was using attach rates to prove something on the fiscal side of things, not the quality of any games on any consoles.
 
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