There's two sides to every Xbox Live story. Very Controversial!

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http://kotaku.com/5476938/theres-two-sides-to-every-xbox-live-banning

You may have already seen this over the weekend, but if not, here's a clip that reportedly shows an Xbox Live moderator by the name of "The Pro" suffering from a bad case of ban fever.

The user, himself banned after a round of Modern Warfare 2 with the moderator, claims a combination of audio problems and innocence result in the glaring audio issues in the below video. And that he, and many others, have been banned from Xbox Live for "nothing", and that The Pro "abuses his power for no reason".
 
Saw the video over the weekend. Hard to tell what's going on since the video is heavily edited. I did hear another sound byte with more of the conversation and the kid has an extremely bad mouth on him. So I do agree with his banning somewhat.
 
Oh yeah, the xbl kiddie needed to be banned. ::) It's funny that they thought an edited video would get the mod in trouble. I guess they didn't realize that someone still had the original including all that was said.
 
Upon a second watch of those videos and reading some of the comments... Besides the kid's language and threats, did anyone catch him saying that he was turning on his xbox mods? That in itself is a bannable offense.

I love one of the comments about it being a 12 year old complaining about getting banned from an M rated game... :D
 
Yeah I heard the word "mod" a few times too. Wasn't too sure if he was referring to a game mod or the XBL mod. If hes was using a mod, then he definitely deserved what he got.
 
http://kotaku.com/5479594/in-defense-of---and-a-salute-to---the-pro

Now for the other half:

Two jackasses baiting an Xbox Live moderator and getting banned isn't worth much outrage. But when they doctor a video and expect everyone to believe it on the knee-jerk faith that mods are fascists, that just insults your intelligence.

Each week on Kotaku Talk Radio I write and record a rant/editorial titled "Something Negative." This week's was about The Pro, and if you're not familiar with what I'm talking about, read up on Luke's coverage and update, it'll bring you up to speed.

So, below is reprinted the text of my editorial for those who may not have heard it during this morning's broadcast. But you can also download the podcast (25.9 MB mp3) and hear it for yourself. It's at the 40:00 mark, on the dot.

Something Negative, Feb. 24, 2009

Over the weekend we got a taste of the worst Xbox Live has to offer. None of it was Microsoft's fault, although the cretins involved did their damndest to make it seem that way. But it blew up in their face from the get go.

In this incident, a heavily edited video was released to YouTube pretending to show an Xbox Live moderator, Gamertag "The Pro," on a power trip with some innocent Modern Warfare 2 players. The audio was edited in attempt to make it appear that The Pro was banning people left and right for minor offenses or for asking harmless questions.

In fact, the kids behind this were too stupid to cover their tracks, as their Gamertags were linked to several other videos showing them using illegal mods in Modern Warfare 2, and engaging in other behavior that most assuredly deserves a two-week time out. At least.

Shortly after this video went out and fooled no one, uncut audio of another encounter was discovered and in it, we can hear what set off The Pro. It's some teenager activating an illegal mod, and then gratuitously provoking The Pro by boasting of having violent sex with his grandmother. That's like saying the magic word to a major league umpire, and The Pro gave him the heave ho.

I'm not a law-and-order authoritarian. Neither are most folks on this service. That doesn't mean we give the benefit of the doubt to someone just because they accuse a giant corporation of fascist behavior, and vent their tinhorn indignation, like skateboarders lecturing mall security on Constitutional law. That's because of two things. One is the preponderance of unpunished douchebag behavior on Xbox Live, especially on certain games, many of them shooters. If we're prejudging a class of people as abusive, unfair and arrogant, honestly, you're more likely describing a gamer than a moderator.

The second, and most important, is because we're paying $50 a year for the service. Reasonable people don't pay that money thinking it entitles them to do anything they please online. We pay it because we expect some portion will be spent on moderation of trolls, cheaters and others who think our paid Xbox Live experience is their personal canvas upon which they can paint a giant middle finger to the world.

Xbox Live enforcement chief Stephen Toulouse stood by his moderator, but did take issue with his tone of voice. Personally I found him entirely in the right, and I'm grateful to The Pro for taking it like one and then acting. By banning these twits, he salvaged some positive out of a situation that was truly Something Negative. I'm Owen Good.
 
The mod was in the right. It's people like that on XBL is why I don't use the service. Sure there are people like that on PC and PS3, hell I take part in the occasional grieving but, it's few and far between. Last night at 1 am was prime example in my house. My younger sibling of 14 years of age was on XBL and every other word that came out of his mouth was a profanity. And all the while all he was shouting was smack talk.
 
And with this story we have the answer to the question "Why does Nintendo make it so hard to play online?" I let my kids play online on the Wii and not on Xbox precisely because it's very difficult (in some cases impossible) to communicate with strangers while playing. They still get to race, but they don't have to deal with morons spewing into their headsets.
 
hikari said:
And with this story we have the answer to the question "Why does Nintendo make it so hard to play online?" I let my kids play online on the Wii and not on Xbox precisely because it's very difficult (in some cases impossible) to communicate with strangers while playing. They still get to race, but they don't have to deal with morons spewing into their headsets.

Very true, but at the same time by making it difficult you're alienating other gamers. The reason people even pay for XBL is because of how easily it integrates with games. Everything is just pretty much seamless. Not sure of how the PS3 is because I don't have one yet.

In conclusion, Parents should be more aware of what their children do online, whether on a gaming service or on Facebook.
 
Agree with the moderator 100%. It's stupid kids like him that need to get kicked off the service.
 
Those kids deserved a ban. No joke. :lol I feel terrible for the Pro's grandmother though! :lol Seriously, I agree with the Mod. He did what was right.
 
CreepinDeth said:
Very true, but at the same time by making it difficult you're alienating other gamers. The reason people even pay for XBL is because of how easily it integrates with games. Everything is just pretty much seamless. Not sure of how the PS3 is because I don't have one yet.

In conclusion, Parents should be more aware of what their children do online, whether on a gaming service or on Facebook.


Agreed. Easy solution to not talking to other gamers on XBL: don't buy a headset or disable voicechat.
 
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