Watchmen

Strubes said:
What a wonderful tribute. But, they coulda just kept him with his super underwear on. If people complained about that...then I'd be terrified.

Honestly, I kinda wish they did. I mean, it's one thing if it's a static drawing, but if it's in a movie it's gonna take on a life of its own and move around. That's not something I look forward to seeing. :lol
 
The movie was ok, 3/5 is about right. I still dont know the signifince of showing mr manhattans junk. Y o Y now that is burned in my mine FOREVER ::D
 
Mai Valentine said:
I liked the fighting, wish there had been more of it.

I agree! Two (3 if you count the first scene) solid fight scenes in 2 hrs and 43mins? Dang it.

The Comedian, I felt bad for. I love the fact, these were NOT your average superheroes, but people with real life situations and serious mental problems at that. Carrying on the burden of being a superhero could have effected this I would say. Yet, on second thought, they abused their powers and images. It's like they were Hollywood stars, you hear these kind of things all the time. Gunned down, suicide, overdosed, or Silhouette for example, her demise was rather sad.
 
My favorite quote, however..

You people just don't understand. I'm not stuck in here with you. You're all stuck in here with me!

:D
 
The stupidest part (IMO) was when

The "smartest man on the planet" used his incredible agility to catch a bullet instead of dodging it. Absolutely pointless.
 
I know that's why he did it, but the logic behind it is FLAWED.
If he were to be shot at that range, there would have been blood, lots of blood. There was NONE, not a drop. Surely Rorschach, Nite Owl, and Silk Specter, being so used to killing and violence whould have wondered why there was no blood coming from someone who had just been shot and supposedly killed.. Why didn't Ozymandias just use his speed and reflexes to disarm her like he did the assassin in his building? He was more than capable of doing so.

I'd like to see someone refute that point.
 
SpartanEvolved said:
I know that's why he did it, but the logic behind it is FLAWED.
If he were to be shot at that range, there would have been blood, lots of blood. There was NONE, not a drop. Surely Rorschach, Nite Owl, and Silk Specter, being so used to killing and violence whould have wondered why there was no blood coming from someone who had just been shot and supposedly killed.. Why didn't Ozymandias just use his speed and reflexes to disarm her like he did the assassin in his building? He was more than capable of doing so.

I'd like to see someone refute that point.

Well, maybe if you had been watching more carefully, his hand was bleeding from the bullet wound. His hand was covering his chest after he fell from the stairs, so they just assumed he had been hit. If they had rushed in and tried to get him, he would have realized and sprung back and kicked their a$$es again. The guy is fast, faster than Rorschach and Night Hawk put together apparently. Anything they did against him was futile. Nothing seemed logical to do at the time.

Saw it again last night. Awesome movie. :)
 
SpartanEvolved said:
I know that's why he did it, but the logic behind it is FLAWED.
If he were to be shot at that range, there would have been blood, lots of blood. There was NONE, not a drop. Surely Rorschach, Nite Owl, and Silk Specter, being so used to killing and violence whould have wondered why there was no blood coming from someone who had just been shot and supposedly killed.. Why didn't Ozymandias just use his speed and reflexes to disarm her like he did the assassin in his building? He was more than capable of doing so.

I'd like to see someone refute that point.

Silk Specter was in on the whole thing. And as Griff stated, it was to fake his death.
 
I saw it today, and it wasn't bad. The removal of most of Rorschach's backstory and Tales of the Black Freighter really hurt the film, Malin Akerman was just awful as the Silk Spectre, and the ending, while making more sense than the original, really screwed up the main theme of the entire graphic novel. In general the acting was pretty meh, the exception being the guy who played the Comedian. It was a pretty good movie, and I'm sure if I saw it without reading the source material, it would have blown me away, but, from the perspective of someone who already read the novel, I can't see the movie as being anything but and inferior version.
 
SpartanEvolved said:
I know that's why he did it, but the logic behind it is FLAWED.
If he were to be shot at that range, there would have been blood, lots of blood. There was NONE, not a drop. Surely Rorschach, Nite Owl, and Silk Specter, being so used to killing and violence whould have wondered why there was no blood coming from someone who had just been shot and supposedly killed.. Why didn't Ozymandias just use his speed and reflexes to disarm her like he did the assassin in his building? He was more than capable of doing so.

I'd like to see someone refute that point.

Ok
Ohio State SUCKS

Sorry but i just had to get that off my chest, Idk spartan it is hard to refute that, but at the end of the day its just a movie :)

GO BLUE
 
Homicidal Cherry53 said:
I saw it today, and it wasn't bad. The removal of most of Rorschach's backstory and Tales of the Black Freighter really hurt the film, Malin Akerman was just awful as the Silk Spectre, and the ending, while making more sense than the original, really screwed up the main theme of the entire graphic novel. In general the acting was pretty meh, the exception being the guy who played the Comedian. It was a pretty good movie, and I'm sure if I saw it without reading the source material, it would have blown me away, but, from the perspective of someone who already read the novel, I can't see the movie as being anything but and inferior version.

I read somewhere that the Black Freighter stuff is in the uncut edition of the movie. I'll look for a link.

*EDIT* here ya go http://www.collider.com/entertainment/news/article.asp/aid/10993/tcid/1
 
SpartanEvolved said:
I read somewhere that the Black Freighter stuff is in the uncut edition of the movie. I'll look for a link.

*EDIT* here ya go http://www.collider.com/entertainment/news/article.asp/aid/10993/tcid/1
That's good to know. Maybe the uncut edition will be better, but I wasn't terribly impressed with the theatrical cut.
 
Re: Rorschach's mask, this is only 2 pages in the comic. He explains it to the shrink while he's in jail.

Re: Malin Akerman, totally freaking hawt.

Re: ween, honestly I wasn't too bothered - any scene Jon was in, I couldn't stop staring at his eyes. And truthfully he walked round nekkid in the comic the entire time, if they'd put pants on him or something I'd have felt that they shouldn't have.

The ending was different, but it made sense, maybe even more sense than the GN did. For a purist though there was no way to throw the rest of the missing people subplot in there to get the "real" ending.

Re: "smartest man in the world" why the blue blazes would he leave his password in plain sight in his desk. Srsly.
 
SpartanEvolved said:
I know that's why he did it, but the logic behind it is FLAWED.
If he were to be shot at that range, there would have been blood, lots of blood. There was NONE, not a drop. Surely Rorschach, Nite Owl, and Silk Specter, being so used to killing and violence whould have wondered why there was no blood coming from someone who had just been shot and supposedly killed.. Why didn't Ozymandias just use his speed and reflexes to disarm her like he did the assassin in his building? He was more than capable of doing so.

I'd like to see someone refute that point.

I asked my friends who had read the comic about that part.
Apparently Ozymandias represented what was thought to be the perfect human specimen, and being fast enough to catch a moving bullet was thought to be the greatest physical human achievement. There is doubt throughout the story as to whether or not Ozymandias really is the greatest human being there is, was, or ever will be, and so catching the bullet at the end symbolically proves he is. It also fits Ozymandias' character to try and claim this boast for his own.

It may not make sense logistically, but it does make sense poetically. It is also of special importance that it happens as the issue of "peace at what cost" is brought up. Ozymandias is trying to bring about world peace by killing millions of people, and the other Watchmen are trying to save millions of people by killing Ozymandias. It is important that Silk Specter pulls the trigger, because it shows that she is perfectly willing to kill in order to save lives, and is therefore no different than Ozymandias. If he had simply used his speed to disarm her before she got the chance to kill him it would change the nature of the "greater good" argument they have.

Joyling said:
Re: "smartest man in the world" why the blue blazes would he leave his password in plain sight in his desk. Srsly.

That is kind of dumb. :lol

Maybe it was to show that even the smartest man in the world is capable of making dumb mistakes, but its far more likely due to an oversight of somesort.
 
stealth toilet said:
I asked my friends who had read the comic about that part.
Apparently Ozymandias represented what was thought to be the perfect human specimen, and being fast enough to catch a moving bullet was thought to be the greatest physical human achievement. There is doubt throughout the story as to whether or not Ozymandias really is the greatest human being there is, was, or ever will be, and so catching the bullet at the end symbolically proves he is. It also fits Ozymandias' character to try and claim this boast for his own.

It may not make sense logistically, but it does make sense poetically. It is also of special importance that it happens as the issue of "peace at what cost" is brought up. Ozymandias is trying to bring about world peace by killing millions of people, and the other Watchmen are trying to save millions of people by killing Ozymandias. It is important that Silk Specter pulls the trigger, because it shows that she is perfectly willing to kill in order to save lives, and is therefore no different than Ozymandias. If he had simply used his speed to disarm her before she got the chance to kill him it would change the nature of the "greater good" argument they have.

Also, the reason there wouldn't be much blood is because he's wearing a rubber suit. Unless the bullet was a .50, it would not have been so bloody regardless.
 
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