How Many More People Have To Die Before We Do Anything?

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I know this a gaming forum but this General Discussion Category is perfect spot for this topic.I've watched a lot of shows that focus on drug addiction especially in teenagers,and for some reason they hardly ever talk about one of the most lethal over the counter drugs called "Gravol" or in America "Dramamine" the brand names for "Dimenhydrinate".

Don't get me wrong,they have done some discussion on the topic but they feel they have bigger fish to fry,and yes,"Meth,Heroin,Crack,Acid,Pain Killers,and to a lesser extent Cough Medication because of "DMX".And they are serious dangers in their own right,but these people are making a huge mistake by underestimating the true evil of "Dimenhydrinate" abuse.This is the voice of experience talking.I'm not proud of it,but up until 10 or 11 years ago,I abused this drug at the rate of 30 to 45 every night ,because at that level this drug will produce a heightened feeling of euphoria(Feeling High).I ingested these amount for 2 reasons,1. because the high was a great feeling.2. I had to because the body builds a tolerance to the drug quite rapidly requiring more and more to produce the desired effect.

I have written letters to the government and the various companies that make this drug,sure enough,all I got in response was form letters basically telling me that they are not responsible for the people who take this drug properly,but true to form,they sent a response with obviously insincere concern about the people who are hooked on it.I got news for you,the government and the companies make this stuff aren't your friends,they don't care about so and so who lives nest door to you in some city somewhere,they thirst for the money,nothing else.

And yes,it's not fair to the people who use it properly for motion sickness,and nobody forces people to walk into a pharmacy and buy it,but it's a horrible drug that should be taken lightly.It's very cheap to buy and in a lot of places you do have to be 18 to buy in Canadian stores,I'm not sure about the US.But it hardly matters because you can always find someone who is of legal age to buy it for you,just like alcohol.

In medical studies the most common side effects of abusing this drug are extreme dizziness,mood swings,sexual dysfunction,mild euphoria,excitability(especially in children),memory lapse,urine retention.At the dosage level I was taking is suffered serious rapid heartbeat,confusion,hallucinations,nosebleeds,not being able to urinate at all,which required several visits to the ER.Vomiting,extreme aggression,and great difficulty in breathing.

In closing,I wrote this to warn curious people who have never tried but who have friends that suggested it for abusive purposes,and people who are currently abusing it and making them think it's just because it's not illegal to have.I'm not a doctor,everything I know is from experience and study,and when my doctor found out how long this abuse of this drug and the extreme overdose I was taking on a daily basis,he looked at me and said:Jason I'm surprised you are not dead.I'll ya they really hit home to me,because I've never seen him so angry.Know this,I f you know someone who is suffering from this horrible addiction,get them off it ANYWAY YOU CAN!! if you don't,you will regret it deeply,I promise you.I forgot to mention,because of all the dimenhydrinate I abused over the years,because of the effect of the high doses I took over the years,it permanently damaged some of my inner ear,I cannot ride a bike anymore because of the damage I did,my balance is off some.On top of that,my pupils of my eyes are permanently dilated,some people who don't know about my addiction think I'm on something all the time,and that sucks.

God bless,
MR.KAZ
 
Hey KAZ. I agree, people need to be aware of the damage from abusing "legal" drugs. I have not heard of the drug you mentioned, but I know tons of people who abuse pain killers and such. I think more people are starting to get aware of this though which is good.That really sucks about the damage you did to yourself. I have some inner ear problems and I know how crippling they can be, but yours sound much worse! Just keep spreading the word about this stuff, that is all you can do!
 
That is really sad that you ended up with permanent side effects from that med, Kaz.

I am glad you are taking the time to share your story and let people know about the bad stuff that can happen too.

It is good that you were able to get over that addiction. It sucks being sort of chained to something that hurts you.
 
So you were addicted to a drug that helps prevent motion sickness or nausea, correct? Did you suffer from car sickness or such?

Sorry for the troubles you went though, but glad to see you recovered well since then.
 
That's a bummer Kaz. I never knew that such a seemingly harmless medication could pose such a thread.

It makes me feel fortunate to be one of the few people on the planet that seem to not be able to get addicted to anything besides breathing.
 
I'm not a big fan of drugs in general, even prescribed ones. I'm more the kind of person to try and tough things out than take medicine, unless it's antibiotics.

I get seasickness, and one time I had to go on a boat trip for one of my college classes. Instead of getting Dramamine, Joyling and I bought these cool pressure point bands. They actually work, too.
 
I had a friend who got into cough syrup and sleeping pills. He was an ambitious and incredibly smart individual who was very comfortable speaking to large groups of people, I always thought he'd grow up to be a politician or professor or something. But after 1 or 2 years of getting into drugs he really messed himself up bad. He's cleaned himself up since then. Now he's working as a night manager for a coffee shop/pizza place, and he's glad to have it. He's still really smart and confident, but his ability to learn new things has been decreased severely, it's going to take a lot of time for his brain to recover, though it will never be as good as it once was. He also can't remember 2 years of his life. I had a conversation once when he was asking me about things that happened to him during that time as he tried to separate reality from what he remembered. In all honesty, I remember his life for those two years better than he does...

I also used to work in a grocery store where every once in awhile there would be this one guy who'd come in, grab a bottle of mouthwash, go in the bathroom, and down it. He was a sad character indeed

There are a lot of products out there you have to take responsibly, otherwise they can really mess you up. Like Kaz said, just because they're legal doesn't mean they can't do permanent damage to you. I'd never actually heard of gravol abuse before, but I know what's in that drug, and I fully believe you when you say it can become addicting and mess you up good.
 
Dart said:
That's a bummer Kaz. I never knew that such a seemingly harmless medication could pose such a thread.

It makes me feel fortunate to be one of the few people on the planet that seem to not be able to get addicted to anything besides breathing.

Not just that Dart,you're strong willed enough to avoid these truly malevolent addictions.I'm certain at one point in your life someone has offered you drugs and you turned them down with sheer force of will,that takes a lot of discipline.And yes "Dimenhydrinate" seems harmless.I don't know about you yankees down there,but where I live, you have to be 19 or older to buy them,also,you can only buy 1 package at a time.Each package contains: one package of ten or one package of thirty.

The generic ones are much less costly than the brand name,but they have the same effect.A couple of pharmacies where I live charge only $2.35 Total,which certainly doesn't help the poor soul who is trying to quit.In closing,keep your young children away from these anyway you can.I'm not a parent,but the last thing I would want to see is my child lying dead on a cold metal autopsy table,because they took too many of these horrible pills and died due to chemical poisoning causing cardiac arrest.

Protect your children,no matter how much love and how much protection you give,your efforts will be in vain,because this kind of thing every child will experience at least once in their lifetime.All you can do is give them as much armor as you can and pray to God that they don't fall for a group of people who seem as if they actually care about your child.
 
I'm sorry to hear that.

I've known about all the crap that you can buy to put in your body. To be completely honest anything synthesized in a lab shouldn't be going in your body. Your body wasn't designed to process it and will treat it like a poison. Granted they've found ways to counteract the body's defenses so that drug can go to work. This is partly why we have side effects that are so bad. Sadly, based on this and the crap that the government lets the food industry put in just about everything you eat and drink I just don't think they give a crap about us.

All that matters in the money they get and it disgusts me.
 
I've never heard of this drug, but I'm sure it's availble somewhere where I live, and if it is, I'm glad I now have this knowledge. Mr. Kraz, I hope for the ebst for you after the resulting side-affects, and that your word is spread high and true.
I've got an idea. Get what you put there, and send out some chain mail. I don't take part in chain mail myself, regardless, but that doesn't mean it can stop you because there's plenty of people out there that will read chain mail and spread it on to many others.

IT'S TIME TO RAISE YOUR VOICE EVEN HIGHER THAN JUST IN THIS FORUMS! get your word out so others may understand why they shouldn't abuse drugs, legal or otherwise.
 
Hell Scyth said:
I've never heard of this drug, but I'm sure it's available somewhere where I live, and if it is, I'm glad I now have this knowledge. Mr. Kraz, I hope for the ebst for you after the resulting side-affects, and that your word is spread high and true.
I've got an idea. Get what you put there, and send out some chain mail. I don't take part in chain mail myself, regardless, but that doesn't mean it can stop you because there's plenty of people out there that will read chain mail and spread it on to many others.

IT'S TIME TO RAISE YOUR VOICE EVEN HIGHER THAN JUST IN THIS FORUMS! get your word out so others may understand why they shouldn't abuse drugs, legal or otherwise.

Hi Hell Scyth,thank you for replying.I understand you are from Australia.I was on the bus heading home the other day and I happened to notice a woman on her cell phone talking,and she had what I thought was an English accent.I said you must be from England,and not 3 seconds went by did she give me a nasty look before she replied and said no I'm from Australia.

I apologized for guessing wrong,but what I can't figure out is why she gave me that nasty look first.Do Australia and England not care for each other or what,I certainly wasn't trying to be sarcastic,but she looked like she wanted to kick my but.Why?
 
Cough Syrup Abuse Will Destroy You,WAKE UP!! People!!

Hi Everyone!

I decided to make this post after watching some footage of some poor soul suffering the consequences of "DXM" abuse."Dextromethorphan" is a chemical found in way too many over the counter cold medications.This story I'm about to tell you guys is pretty graphic.You will not find it anywhere on the web with such accurate and truly disturbing facts,I say facts because it's from my own experience.I'm not proud of it,but I abused over the counter cough medication containing 15mg Dextromethorphan,30mg Pseudoephedrine,and 200mg of Guaifenesin.This is a generic version of "Robitussin" and its counterparts sold as a remedy for cold symptoms such as cough and chest congestion for over 2 years.

This stuff has been around a long time.It has also been abused for a long time.With today's hard drugs such as Heroin,Ice,Oxycontin etc.,DXM has kind of drifted off the seen a little when compared to these HARD drugs,but know this,DXM is still being abused at an alarming rate,especially in young teens.Just because it may not be as popular or as harsh as the above mentioned drugs,it doesn't mean that it can't destroy you.From my own personal experience I will share with you some embarrassing but very important facts about what this drug can do to you.

When I first started drinking it,it came in a 250ml bottle,each teaspoon had the same dosage level of chemicals as listed above.When I first started I would drink about 25% of a 250ml bottle.After drinking that much I started to feel very sick to my stomach and ended up vomiting,big time.It got to a point where I would vomit up blood as well.The high was good,but I couldn't keep vomiting like this so instead of quitting right there with a lesson learned,my stupid intelligence told me to chase it with milk,problem solved!I had no idea of the dire situations that would soon follow.

Now that I had milk to chase it with,I decided to increase the amount I was drinking to about half of a 250ml bottle.I'll be honest,after it would kick in,I felt like a million bucks,little did I know about the real trouble coming my way.About a month or so binge on drinking this stuff to get stoned,my body developed a tolerance to the drug which meant I had to imbibe more to get the desired effect.(Day Damn One...)now I was up to drinking about 75% of a 250ml bottle to get the high I desired.Just so you know,just because your body develops a tolerance to the drug doesn't mean your kidneys and liver aren't being severely damaged,the medication just masks these symptoms,so you think you're ok in that department.WRONG!!

The body can take only so much abuse.I drank so much on night that the drug caused the muscles that help you urinate to become very tight,causing much difficulty when trying to urinate.I had to push very hard to get some relief which resulted in the muscles around my bladder to become even more agitated.I ended up in the ER that night with a catheter attached,anyone who has had one of these inserted knows how painful it can be,not to mention embarrassing.This certainly put quite the scare into me,but being an addict,I was stupid enough to drink even more the next day.

Guess where I ended up again.Only this time took away my ability to defecate.I know it sounds gross,but these are the cold hard facts that people don't like to discuss,and yes,it is embarrassing to tell this story,but if it helps any of you who are currently abusing or thinking of abusing cough syrup,remember these words,and last,but certainly not least,after I had overcome this addiction,I went to the doctor for a check-up to see if there was any serious injury to my insides from all this abuse,my doctor said to me.."a few more months of abusing that junk,I would find myself shopping for a lifetime supply of pampers,get my drift?

Please,if you or anyone you know is abusing this drug,stop them in any way you can,because I promise you,if they keep it up,there situation would be dire one of the greatest magnitude.

God Bless,
MR.KAZ
 
Re: Cough Syrup Abuse Will Destroy You,WAKE UP!! People!!

Hey, I'm sick with a sore throat this morning. Can I still have some? :(
 
Re: Cough Syrup Abuse Will Destroy You,WAKE UP!! People!!

MegaDrive20XX said:
Hey, I'm sick with a sore throat this morning. Can I still have some? :(

You sarcastic son of a #$&!#*% :lol :lol Hey everybody,Mega is pickin' on me! :p
 
Re: Cough Syrup Abuse Will Destroy You,WAKE UP!! People!!

No, seriously dude. I'm sick with a sore throat for real :(
 
Re: Cough Syrup Abuse Will Destroy You,WAKE UP!! People!!

MegaDrive20XX said:
No, seriously dude. I'm sick with a sore throat for real :(


High Mega!

"Chloroseptic" is what I use,it works pretty good for me.
 
Hello Members!

"Gravol"/"Dramamine" abuse is a constant through time,so I thought I'd resurrect this topic for those who haven't seen it,and for those that might have forgotten it.

Where I live you can purchase a pack 30 Generic Tablets for a total of around,if I remember correctly it's still about $2.75-$4.75.That is about how much scratch you need to destroy you and your loved one's life as you know it.This medication if abused,can be lethal,yet there still is a disturbing amount of people out there who have no idea just how truly dire a life addiction to this junk is.

The pharmaceutical companies are not your friends.They don't care about you or your friend down the street.I do,please don't ever enter this world,you might not make it back home.

God Bless,
MR.KAZ
 
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