IF Metroid Prime 2 is Multiplayer.....

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Is there any word if it will have broadband capabilities yet?

OR did I miss this as well?

Please post up :)

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Mai Valentine said:
As far as I know, it's only split-screen multiplayer. But I hope they have decided to allow LAN as well.
does anyone know if it supports the BBA yet?

MP2 lan... would be rather sweet....

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LinkTriforceGC said:
Really BV... a Nintendo game being online? Ha...

they have 5 total online games now  ;)

PSO 1/2  & 3  = fully online

Online with warppipe and bba capable:
Mario Kart
1080
Kirby's Airride

ha ... 3 Nintendo brand games online so far, and 2 - 3rd party games  ;)

working for more as we speak.
we'll get them... its too bad that other people don't try for them.

Honestly., I don't want many (if any) online GAmecube games... I don't have the time for them really, let along, I don't play online except through the PC.  I am trying to get them for the people that do.  And I would play some online Gamecube games with others because they want to play them.

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Metroid Prime: Echoes has no online or LAN capabilities, I'm afraid.

Quoting Gamespy's preview:

The biggest beef I have is the age-old complaint of a total lack of online support from Nintendo for the GameCube. With the likes of Bungie's Halo 2 literally ripping it up online, it seems almost cruel to taunt GCN owners with simple split-screen play. There's not even an option to LAN network 'Cubes together.

http://cube.gamespy.com/gamecube/metroid-prime-2/565589p3.html
 
LinkTriforceGC said:
Online with warppipe and bba capable:
Mario Kart
1080
Kirby's Airride

Don't you even dare count those
still more than your none :)

Nintendo shouldn't go online, period.

I agree with this... except I'd like to see lan supported more.

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Nintendo shouldn't go online, period.

How can you honestly say that? Are you saying that you would have no interest in playing SSB:M online? Are you saying that you wouldn't want the ability to play MP2 multiplayer when it was convenient for you, on a bigger screen? You don't want to play MK:DD with 7 other real people!?

Can't you see the possibilities!? Nintendo is on the cusp of gaming nirvana, but they just don't have the foresight to do it! If they want to rival Sony and Microsoft, then make some Nintendo franchises online capable. That's all they'd need.
 
If Microsoft is not making money at it yet, why Should Nintendo go for it?

Nintendo is about profits.... they profit on everything they make.  They haven't had much that went to bust without making some $$.

I would definitely try to get Online plans for anyone that wanted them..... which is why I want to get more games LAN capable because I know there are tons of people out there that want to play online Nintendo games.

But I don't care (for my personal gaming experience) if they go online or not.

I just wish companies gave the Nintendo Gamecube some decent deving...

actually .. the idea I submitted to Nintendo about the 9 systems in 1... AND some online plans..... would probably dethrone Sony... and take over the #1 position.


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Well my thoughts on the subject are that generally, Nintendo makes good enough games that they don't have to rely on multiplayer. Zelda and Mario, for instance.

Halo 1 & 2...the Campaign is ok but what makes the game is multiplayer. If H2 didn't have multiplayer would people still like it as much? I'm willing to bet that they wouldn't.

I guess what I'm saying is that I think both aspects of a game should be good.
 
stealth toilet said:
How can you honestly say that? Are you saying that you would have no interest in playing SSB:M online? Are you saying that you wouldn't want the ability to play MP2 multiplayer when it was convenient for you, on a bigger screen? You don't want to play MK:DD with 7 other real people!?

Can't you see the possibilities!? Nintendo is on the cusp of gaming nirvana, but they just don't have the foresight to do it! If they want to rival Sony and Microsoft, then make some Nintendo franchises online capable. That's all they'd need.

Actually, that's exactly what i'm saying stealth. I used to have tons of fun just sitting with 3-dimensional people in the living room playing mutli-player Goldeneye and other multi-player games. Nintendo have always provided games that enable you to have a great time with friends that are actually THERE. I don't see how that should change, games like SSBM and Timesplitters 2 are still great fun to play at home and i'm fine with things staying how they are. Playing online just doesn't seem as fun to me, you don't have the people there.

No, Nintendo DON'T have to go online, that's just what people say because everyone's gone crazy and thinks that you can't have a fun time without doing it with people from a different country on a phone line. It's rubbish.
 
If Microsoft is not making money at it yet, why Should Nintendo go for it?

It is profitable. Over 150,000 people bought Xbox Live starter kits at $50 a pop. Do the math, there's profit in that. That's just in America and Canada alone. The fact that Halo 2 sold 2.4 million units in one day has a great deal to do with the fact that it's playable online. Online capability sells more games, period. The fact that people are buying PS2's or Xbox's over the GC because it only has 1 online game means Nintendo loses money. To say that online gaming isn't profitable is a load of, well, you know what. Nintendo is just too set in their ways to admit they were wrong and give gamers what they want. And don't try telling me people don't want to play online, though I could understand how you could get that impression if you visited the Warp Pipe...

Edit: In response to Retro who posted as I posted...

I love to sit down and play videogames with my friends. Its always a great time to gather up a couple guys, by some chips and pop, and waste away an afternoon geeking out. The problem is, your friends have lives. You have a life. They don't always convenience one another. Sometimes I'd like to have a round or two of MOH before I go to bed. I'm not gonna phone up 3 friends and tell them to come over for 45 minutes so I can play some multiplayer game. But I would like to go online for 2 minutes and play a couple other people. Plus, having a small screen sucks. So does having someone watch your screen. Playing online elminates both those problems. Sure you could just put on a couple bots and play, but playing bots sucks, seriously. Some games don't even offer that (I doubt MP2 will). I'd rather play a real person any day, its much more unpredictable and a lot more fun. Honestly, I haven't touched MK:DD in months because playing bots sucks, its just boring. Winning and losing doesn't matter, because they don't care if they win or lose. There's no sense of accomplishment in beating a program in a race. Beating a real person, on the other hand, even if they're not sitting right beside me, would be a lot more rewarding. On top of all that, you can play with your friends against other real people. Its a lot more fun that playing with your friends against 4 bots, or playing 2 vs. 2. Countless times my friends and I have gotten together to play some Halo, but there's only 4 of us which isn't much fun so we go on XBC and play 4 other real people in a game of CTF. Its a lot more fun than just playing two on two, and you still get to play with other people in the room. On top of all that, you can play with your friends even if they're not at your house, or if they live in another city. If I just want that quick round of MOH, but I want it to be with people I know, I can phone one or two of them up, meet up on Xbox Live, and play against a couple other people from God knows where. We can all talk to each other via a headset and microphone, or if someone's bein a loser, you can turn it off. You still get the same experience, its just a lot more convenient.

Sorry for going on such a rant but how can you honestly say that you don't want any of that to be available on the Cube!?
 
Because I don't, it's that simple. Nintendo's always been the way it is and there were no complaints until everyone got in their heads that all consoles MUST go online. The PC goes online and has a TON of online games to play, ones that give months and years of enjoyment. Even the internet itself has online games. Aside from that, there's XBOX Live and PS2 to go online with (not that I bother going through all that).

I just don't see why Nintendo should do it just because people have gotten greedy. It's still tons of fun to play in a room full of people. I also don't like change, especially with Nintendo who in my opinion are almost perfect.
 
stealth toilet said:
It is profitable.

ok.. so 150,000 people are online. Not all are on the $50 a pop method.

What does it cost to run a live type service?
Are you sure Msoft isn't still bleeding red from the Live service?


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Retro Hero said:
Actually, that's exactly what i'm saying stealth. I used to have tons of fun just sitting with 3-dimensional people in the living room playing mutli-player Goldeneye and other multi-player games. Nintendo have always provided games that enable you to have a great time with friends that are actually THERE. I don't see how that should change, games like SSBM and Timesplitters 2 are still great fun to play at home and i'm fine with things staying how they are. Playing online just doesn't seem as fun to me, you don't have the people there.

No, Nintendo DON'T have to go online, that's just what people say because everyone's gone crazy and thinks that you can't have a fun time without doing it with people from a different country on a phone line. It's rubbish.

Ditto!

PCs were online long before consoles and no one complained that the PSone or the N64 should go online too (or if they did, it wasn't as vocally). But now that consoles are online it's like everything thinks a game sucks if you can't go online with it. A game offers 4 player split screen? That's not enough. A game offers LAN capability for up to 16 players? That's not enough. It has to be able to go online and have up to 16 people, if not more. It gets irritating when people say that they will only play games that are online. Well, that's nice for them, but I'm going to go and enjoy my RE4 and Zelda 2005 and whatever else comes out that's not online, while they miss out because they think online is where it's at.

If you can only enjoy a game online, does that mean it's really a good game? I still think being able to enjoy a game should encompass both the single-player experience and the multiplayer experience. If one or the other is going to suck because they put it as an afterthought, then don't put it in there at all.

If online was really such a big thing, isn't it logical to think that the XBOX would be far ahead of the GC? But it's not. They are pretty close still.

I play Halo 2 on XBOX Live and it's really cool and all, but that has more to do with the game being cool and Bungie having awesome stat tracking than anything else. I've played other games on Live and really didn't see the appeal to playing them on Live.
 
I'd like Nintendo to go online at some point. I disagree with them going online for the sake of it, or because the other two are.

They said themselves that they aren't going to go online until they can be profitable with it, so it's at least reassuring that they won't be running themselves into the ground by trying to compete in that sector.

I'd like to see Pokémon online one day.
 
I'm with Steath 100%. I love getting together with some freinds and having a great time. But as much as I play games I'm not able to do that all the time. I don't want to play the weak as hell computer player in Super Smash Bros, I want to get online and test my skills on other people. I want to be able to form some clans and maybe play with you guys.

It's as simple as that
 
Amen to that. Despite the simplicity of my arguement, I feel the overwhelming urge to argue it on a point by point basis.

ok.. so 150,000 people are online. Not all are on the $50 a pop method.

Actually there's over 200,000 people online. Microsoft gave some deal where buying it at a certain time meant a friend got it for free or something like that. However, although they got the service for free, they still had to buy an Xbox, and controllers, and games, so I doubt Microsoft was worried to much about going in the red on a promotion like that. Even if the cost of running the service is high the fan base they're gaining will bring in a lot more money in the long run. Once again, foresight comes into play.

PCs were online long before consoles and no one complained that the PSone or the N64 should go online too

A lot of mainstream gamers (like myself) never really thought of it as a possibility until the PS2/GC/Xbox came out with it. Once I heard it was possible, you bet I was angry that the system I chose to support was the only one not supporting it.

A game offers 4 player split screen? That's not enough. A game offers LAN capability for up to 16 players? That's not enough.

Have you ever organized a LAN party? I did for my 16th birthday (sad, I know, but, stick with me on this). It was an incredible effort to actually round up 7 other people, another Xbox, the extra controllers, 2 copies of Halo, the link cable, and getting two TV's placed within in the same relative area. For 16 people, there's no way you'd have enough TV's/systems/controllers/games let alone getting 16 people with different schedules, appointments, obligations, etc., together on the same night. Even if you did manage all that, that's an amazing amount of work to go through for one night of fun.

Again, the split screen thing, 3 friends aren't always conveniently up for playing MP2, and splitting up your screen sucks compared to having a whole one to yourself. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. No one makes their screen smaller on purpose.

It gets irritating when people say that they will only play games that are online. Well, that's nice for them, but I'm going to go and enjoy my RE4 and Zelda 2005 and whatever else comes out that's not online,

And you'll miss out on all the great online experiences. Why not have both? If Nintendo would go online, then you could play the great single player games, and still play the great online games. What's so bad about having the choice?

If you can only enjoy a game online, does that mean it's really a good game? I still think being able to enjoy a game should encompass both the single-player experience and the multiplayer experience. If one or the other is going to suck because they put it as an afterthought, then don't put it in there at all.

That's a completely irrelevent statement. It would be the company's fault for making a poor game, not its online capability. Yes there are bad online games just as there are bad single player games, that has nothing to do with anything.

If online was really such a big thing, isn't it logical to think that the XBOX would be far ahead of the GC?

Microsoft entered the console war with a fanbase of 0. They gone from that to beating Nintendo's fanbase. They must have made some right decisions along the way to do that, and in a sense, they have crushed Nintendo, as for them it was a completely uphill battle.
 
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